mrmaroon
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Re: Matrix Reloaded
disappointing. not as exciting as it should've been.
music was horrendous. rave scene was 20 minutes too long.
will have to check out revolutions to make a final evaluation.
quote: Xandorra wrote:
I think it suffered from a bit of "Lucas" complex... The directors were hailed as the best thing since sliced bread when the first one came out, so they seem to think that they can do what they want with this one. Most of the dialogue is *appalling*, I cringed! Yes, it looks spectacular, but it would have been a better film if the editors had been more brutal & sharpened up the dialogue & cut over long scenes. The SFX are beautiful though, almost flawless
i like the comment about the lucas complex.
disagree with the last statment. special effects have not reached flawless yet. cgi neo and smith are still distinguishable from the real actors. joel silver boasted effects that no one would be able to imitate and that raised the bar so high, there was no bar left. Not from what I saw. Perhaps in revolutions...?
SPOILER!
The architect dialogue
Architect: Hello Neo
Neo: Who are you?
Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions and although the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human, ergo some of my answers you will understand and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question maybe the most pertinent you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.
Neo: Why am I here?
Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden deciduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexcerably here.
Neo: You havent answered my question.
Architect: Quite right. Interesting, that was quicker then the others.
Neo: Others? (What others? How many? Answer me)
Architect: The Matrix is older then you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next. In which case this is the sixth version.
Neo: Then there are only two possible explanations, either no one told me, or no one knows.
Architect: Precisely, as you are undoubtedly gathering the anomaly is systemic. Creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.
Neo: Choice, the problem is choice.
Architect: The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus, I redesigned it, Based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However I was again frustrated my failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another, and intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.
Neo: The Oracle
Architect: Please, as I was saying she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99 percent of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at an unconscious level. While this answered function it was obviously fundamentally flawed thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly. That if left unchecked might threaten the system itself, ergo those that refuse the program while the minority if unchecked would cause an escalating probability of disaster.
Neo: This is about Zion
Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.
Neo: Bull
Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it. And we have become exceedingly efficient at it. The function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program after which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix. Which, coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.
Neo: You wont let it happen, you cant. You need human beings to survive.
Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world. It is interesting reading your reactions. Your 5 predecessors were by design based on a similar predication a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a very general way your experience is far more specific, Vis a vie love.
Neo: Trinity
Architect: Apropo, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.
Neo: No
Architect: Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end. There are two doors, the door to your right leads to the source and the salvation of Zion, the door to your left leads back to the matrix to her and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know we you are going to do dont we? Already I can see the chain reaction the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple and obvious truth, she is going to die and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness.
Neo: If I were you, I would hope that we dont meet again.
Architect: We wont.
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VinManAgent11
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Re: Matrix Reloaded
Matrix= Terminator + say, Tron
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I loved th movie It was awsome
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Marix: Reloaded had awesome SFX and storyline, it was a great movie. Howver, the real reson for this post is this: mrmaroon, you either took a tape recorder into the theater or you found the Matrix: Reloaded script on the internet. I will love you forever if you tell me where you found it.
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VinManAgent11
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LOL me too, I would study that crap for hours!
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I loved The Matrix it was awesome & if anything else Keanu Reeves was so hot lmao...I plan on seeing Matrix Reloaded soon in IMAX which will be even better
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Great movie! Really great fight scenes, really overcomes some of the bad dialogue.
Some people didn't like the architect scene, I loved it. I like things that make me think like that.
9/10 on my scale. ^.^
Oh yeah, and I missed the trailer at the end too >.>
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i'd say the movie was good except 4 the fact that it semmed to b turning into a soft porn movie halfway through the middle.
but apart from that the special effects were great and i love the motorway scene
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It was a great film, my best scenes were the one where Neo fought all the Agents, and the freeway scene, that was kool.
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Saw the movie, played the game, it was cool.
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